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Essential question on a Saturday night..

reidalpine

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:confused:getting a bit more than usual philosophical on a Saturday night no doubt aided by Le Cave du Renault and some serious Blues on the stereo I guess I got to think.... and found we need a serious kwelling on what's Important -and what's not..I think you'll all agree my previous postings have all built up to this -ahem,Conceptual continuity :eek:........I know we have some Real thinking-minds on here so my question to you is this one-If you were to name the TWO most important inventions in the history of mankind and our evolution -what would they be???
Put another way; what separetes us in the socalled developed world from the rest? -and why? I'm sure you won't get me wrong here,I don't pretend to have the answer, I'm just out to hear Your opinion Short and to the point dispute would be enlightning and educational too so come on...
-I guess we all think of the wheel as a very important invention ,but is it-Really? You tell me..........................................................................
 
I think it's both the coffee machine and the sandwich maker otherwise there would have been no need to invent the loft/attic and houses would look peculiar.
 
coffee machine and sandwich maker What we in Norway would call a Wife
and/or Mother...Hm! I got to think on that one! Good reasoning though...
 
..God Reida, you are getting geeting down to the nitty gritty.

..Luckily I know the most important invention in the history of mankind - Some of the clever contrabutory team on this site will disagree but Venetian Blinds would be my suggestion?

After all if it wasn't for the man who invented Venetian Blinds, it would be Curtains for all of us!!
 
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you have a point there ian. -slightly off topic but who cares.. shopkeeper had put a bowl outside for dogs to drink-he was impressed by owners who put lots of coins in it-untill he noticed the bowl were sat under his shop-sign Venetian Blinds..

by the by think I need to give my glasses a proper clean, your picture makes me all dizzy
-you know they have started selling Glass-lenses to replace your worn plastic ones ian?
 
Hola mi Amigos!! suggestion as expected coming from The Eternal Flame of Newcastle!!!
you meant it the other way round yes?

-Have PM'd you Brian.
 
Umm, language, if that counts as invention? And maybe the microchip.
 
Hi jjad. you are very near my own thought when you say language .It's all to do with communication and understanding I think.
Microchip on the other hand I'm not too sure about-ask any owner of say a Laguna etc (see other Renaults on here) and I'm not convinced they will agree..but the CONCEPT of the microchip ,now that I might go along with..

My own suggestion would have to be The Alphabet . Think of it, here we have
26 (TWENTY-SIX!) ziphers/letters(*)that makes it possible to describe,explain communicate ANYTHING known OR unknown to man -ANYWHERE- Almost all language depends and/or are based on the Alphabet,so given you have the "key"(translation)-and key is also within these 26 ziphers -you would be able to descipher and understand ALL language.
Amazing this alphabet.-wonder if someone have patented it already?
!

(*)Over here we're so thick though, we needed 3 extra letters namely Æ,Ø and Å

my suggestion No.2 would have to be something as prosaic as a HOLE -I'll leave you guys to ponder over that one a bit....
 
Good points :) The trouble with English using the Roman alphabet (A-Z) is that there are about 44 sounds in English, but only 26 letters. This makes reading/writing harder, as we have to use combinations of letters to make sounds.

In English, we pronounce all of these words the same:
taught
tort
taut
torte

yet these words can be pronounced differently:
read (to read a book), read (to have read a book)
record (to record something), record (LP discs).
:confused:

I guess some Asian languages have even more 'letters' although these are more correctly characters, where each symbol represents a word - they have thousands of symbols!

:rolleyes:
 
In my language we have a letter for every sound which I thing is great. No need to think how words are spelled because they are spelled exactly as they are pronounced :)

We have a saying that goes something like this: "Read the way it is written and write the way you read it".
 
As Google tells me it's the 110th Anniversary of the birth of Antoine de Saint-Exupéry I thought a quote from him would be appropriate here.

Transport of the mails, transport of the human voice, transport of flickering pictures-in this century as in others our highest accomplishments still have the single aim of bringing men together.
Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

Antoine de Saint-Exupéry was born in Lyon (our local big city) and was an aviator and writer. The airport at Lyon was renamed Saint Exupéry in 2000.
 
..What about the transport of newspapers Claude?

..All down to the Tour`de France:

The roots of the Tour de France can be traced to the Dreyfus Affair, a cause célèbre which divided France at the end of the 19th century over the innocence of Alfred Dreyfus, a soldier convicted – though later exonerated – of selling military secrets to the Germans. Opinions became heated and there were demonstrations by both sides. One was what the historian Eugen Weber called "an absurd political shindig" at the Auteuil horse-race course in Paris in 1899. Among those involved was Comte Jules-Albert de Dion, the owner of the De Dion-Bouton car works, who believed Dreyfus was guilty. De Dion served 15 days in jail and was fined 100 francs for his role at Auteuil, which included striking Émile Loubet, the president of France, on the head with a walking stick.
The incident at Auteuil, said Weber, was "tailor-made for the sporting press." The first and the largest daily sports newspaper in France was Le Vélo, which sold 80,000 copies a day. Its editor, Pierre Giffard, thought Dreyfus innocent. He reported the arrest in a way that displeased de Dion, who was so angry that he joined other anti-Dreyfusards such as Adolphe Clément and Edouard Michelin and opened a rival daily sports paper, L'Auto.
The new newspaper appointed Henri Desgrange as editor. He was a prominent cyclist and owner with Victor Goddet of the velodrome at the Parc des Princes. De Dion knew him through his cycling reputation, through the books and cycling articles that he had written, and through press articles he had written for the Clément tyre company.

L'Auto was not the success its backers wanted. Stagnating sales lower than the rival it was intended to surpass led to a crisis meeting on 20 November 1902 on the middle floor of L'Auto's office at 10 rue du faubourg Montmartre in Paris. The last to speak was the most junior there, the chief cycling journalist, a 26-year-old named Géo Lefèvre. Desgrange had poached him from Giffard's paper. Lefèvre suggested a six-day race of the sort popular on the track but all around France. Long-distance cycle races were a popular means to sell more newspapers but nothing of the length that Lefèvre suggested had been attempted. If it succeeded, it would help L'Auto match its rival and perhaps put it out of business. It could, as Desgrange said, "nail Giffard's beak shut." Desgrange and Lefèvre discussed it after lunch. Desgrange was doubtful but the paper's financial director, Victor Goddet, was enthusiastic. He handed Desgrange the keys to the company safe and said: "Take whatever you need." L'Auto announced the first race on 19 January 1903.
 
Claude, Ian,

great stuff! How true de Saint-Exupéry was; this wonderful forum is bringing the R4 world closer together - I can't imagine how we could manage to get help, parts, encouragement and camaraderie without it! Three cheers for Clementine!

:clementi::clementi::clementi:
 
..Plagiarism Claude?

..Its such a bore to have to open a link and have to plough through all pop ups etc - much easier to read it all as a direct essay.

You all may or may not know this but with my huge interest in and enthusiasm for the Tour de France, it was me after masses of time consuming research that provided that really interesting info on the 'W link' you mentioned anyway..

It was also me that put up the fact that Anglia Car Auctions had a R4 van in their July auction and blow me down, 108 views and NOT one thank you!!

Ps - Anyone want to buy a R4 Piano?
 
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