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reidalpine

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You must surely think I've lost it -if ever I had it to start with that is. My Roffen-project seems to be The Original Never Ending Stooooooory...
-I discover bits&pieces that do not correspond All the time.
I'm Not trying to scare anyone off from such a project,but think it's a Good idea to start Checking out as many of the parts that's needed for the project First-Then doublecheck again.

I've found Radiator needs new lower-brackets and upper
struts.Battery-tray(shelf)needs to be changed and re-placed.both Rad-hoses needs replacing.Speedo-wire is JUST long enough,but need rerouting.Acc-cable needs re-routing.2 Engine-mounts are identical TO rubber-part Chassis-mounts (under the rubbers)are Totally different.Crossmember/gear-lever support from R4GTL must be mounted.If you put on the thinking-cap it is possible to fit it and still have the scissor-jack in place.
Clutch-wire needs replacing,and to maintain in-dash gearstick Top-lid plus reverse-selector (sits On top-lid)needs to be changed Easy but essential!

I've mounted a VDO oil-temp sensor (150C.) at the inspection-plate rear-top end -For water-temp.gauge
Bracket for gearbox/front-traverse I've used the one from Roffen the F4 as the R5-one is too 'fat' and wrong angle
R4-one might need one or two spacers/shims to be 100%
-I have reinforced the rubber-part as R5-motor/box is heavier than orig.

One thing not fixed yet is that the doner R5 have 2 studs on the exhaust-manifold so I can't use the exhaust-clamp from Roffen.
I have not been able to locate correct exhaust-
pipe (going from manifold into front-fender) as aftermarked ones are all too big to fit???? may have to fit make-shift solution at first..
Any advise guys???

Before installing the new motor/box it is wise to check ALL auxilliary-bits Starter/Carb/Alternator/Pump/Clutch etc as it is SO much easier to work on them than afterwards-
-I found that spotwelding the rear bolthead to the back of starter-motor mountingplate would be smart as next time you need to get starter out it is Much easier ,as spot welding it on will ofcourse stop that &%*^¤%% bolt from turning-now it's just a matter of unscrewing the nut sitting nicely on the bellhousing..
Ok guys-if All of you cross All fingers and toes Roffen is due for surgery and transplant 8th.next month and all going well he will be zooming around soon!
If you should spot a funny-looking geezer smiling ALL around his head in a beige Rocket it'll be me.

-If you should think I must be a clever guy after all my babbling-on, I rush to tell you I have had invaluable help and assistance from lots of nice and knowledgable R4-afficionados on here.None mentioned-None forgotten They will all appear with Royal Regalia and Pharaphenalia at a Palace near you!! hug::hug:
-to be continued........................ -R&R.
 
hi reidalpine
glad you are having fun , loving the way your updates are scattered randomly about this forum :)
means casual viewers have to read every obscurely titled thread to keep up
Pepper seems much more organised :!:

must confess all Renault parts look deceptivly similar until you come to reassemble the wrong combination , think how much fun i had bolting 1647 R16tx engine and 5 gordini box in mine

keep posting ----- paul
 
The R4 GTL exhaust should fit to the R5 inlet manifold. The R5 exhaust would exit the inner wing in the wrong place and need modifying anyway (guess who once found a new R5 exhaust in a scrapyard).

It is a little easier do do a engine swap like that if you have a GTL for parts.
 
If it will make you feel better...

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This is where I should rebuild 1397ccm engine (if I get lucky and locate all the needed parts)... Wheels, two engines, two gearboxes, two twin barrel Webers, interiors and much much more :)
 
Hi there John Doe! this is exactly how it used to look
-in our living-room.
bedroom was occupied by motorcycle!

That door to the right in last pic.must be rare by now
is it for a pre-production R4 ?
didn't know they made woodies c",) -R.
 
That's me Paul -All over the place.
headings are deliberate so you will Have to take a peek!

-made up own adjuster for new clutchcable needed yesterday
as new one didn't include these parts
-NOW-today dealer tells me cable is not available....
just tried order one from Ansgar at Der Franzose
as said, this IS the never ending story!
I Am having fun -in a sick deranged way -R.
 
Malcolm! Nuts&bolts arrived today-Many Thanx!
Good you taped them to piece of card as they hung by the tape out of a tear in envelope..
anyways-I am well covered in nuts for now..

-Ordered new exhaust-pipe today-as I need to have the one with the flange and 2 holes (for studs/bolts coil-springs etc)
have it here tomorrow at 12:00 so will see if fits then..

I do not know people rummaging around scrap yards so have absolutely NO idea!! -R.
 
Here's the baby. There's a clamp that slides over the pipe and secures the flared end by means of 2 nuts (there is no gasket). It probably doesn't come with the pipe. Sorry, I don't have a part number, but any R4 or R5 1108cc engine will probably use the same clamp.

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as usual Macolm-You are right. This is the part!
-on the pipe I looked at this clamp was a part of the pipe as I couldn't get it off at other end either,problem was it was much to big to fit..
will investigate further tomorrow-as with My usual luck,the pipe on order will turn out to be the wrong one....Thanx again! -R.
 
that was a big flurry of posting:p
just to add you probably ordered a mk2 (transverse engined) R5 pipe and flange which is why it was too big :rolleyes:

ah well keep at it everybody !!
 
What are you saying Mr_Reno? Do you not think someone who pops in with a similar project next year will have the basic common sense to look for the answers in a thread titled "off my rocker" in the chit chat section? And then find the rest in accompanying posts elsewhere on the forum.

Might be worth an organise Riedar. Would you mind if I have a bash at sorting posts and threads? Could be useful info for others later on as we don't have good info on the forum about converting from 850 to 1108.
 
What are you saying Mr_Reno? Do you not think someone who pops in with a similar project next year will have the basic common sense to look for the answers in a thread titled "off my rocker" in the chit chat section? And then find the rest in accompanying posts elsewhere on the forum.

common sense + renault 4 do they really go together ? :rolleyes:

pretty sure ive posted all the info required several times since ive been on here including the engine brackets (which Reidalpine forgot all about in his excitement) but even i cant remember everything as firstly it was 20 yrs ago when R4s were my bread and butter repair jobs and also depending on year and lhd/rhd things alter - not forgetting the supply of (non collectible) mk1 donor R5s has all but gone

best get Clementine to do an article :eek:(with lhd specifics co-written by Angel) :cool:
 
Paul! I suspect you are right,but cataloge said in-line engine where I suspect it should have been transvestite engine..
that's why I couldn't make out why exh.pot looked like a Big Drum instead of a Dead Fish like it ought to!!
-New one coming in tomorrow,if not right I might go for drag-pipes
with no pot at all.
Police won't bother me as I won't hear them anyways -R.
 
Malcolm-you are free to organize.
-I think it might be a good idea to 'clean-cut'all relevant info at one place.As paul says-he's probably written all about it on here earlier,
I've spent hours Searching relevant phrases and even if it's all there somewhere it takes a LOT of reading to find all needed info.

paul-Thanx for reminding me that you gave me info about the chassis-mounts... And the fact my mind is slipping and I forgot-Very Nice of you c",)
This is why I drive a fairly slow R4 in the first place
-makes other wayfarers safer -R.
 
Hmm there's no way you're going to get me driving a tranvestite car! :o
 
Yup-you were correct-turned out to be wrong type-Again...
pipe to fit R4Gtl/F4-F6 all 1,1L (# 77 00 57 84 43) Not available
over here anymore..
Looks to me to b same pipe but one clamped down with ( )-shaped
clamp while the one I need has a flange-type bracket w.2 holes for studs/bolts and springcoils -as on Malcolms pic here.

Anyone sitting on a spare pipe and preferably the flange-type bracket?

Oupps! Alternatively I could use only the flange-bracket -R.
 
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Probably got one. Anything else you can think of at the moment for your drag racer? Thanks for the letter BTW :D

Paul - I don't have the memory to put together a list of the changes needed to convert from 850 to 1100. I did the conversion myself in 1992. Reidar is the only one who'll be able to figure out a complete list of changes. :D
 
Malcolm! -think there's more going through cat's head than mine
at the moment...
Finally found and ordered the correct pipe today-Actually ordered 2 from different places -as I'm now getting used to counter-message
re availabilty after a while..
-From now on I'm wearing both suspenders And a belt!
Good to hear the post-pidgeons works other way too!

Nothing more than the bracket I can think of now....
Cat agrees-so I am in high spirits at the moment!

-I will work with you re.detailed list -After all done & working
And after a 14days Total bender!! -R
 
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