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Clementine the Cat
 
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Réparateur d'automobiles

Restoration 1984 R4 GTL Rutger-peer

Nice job rutger - is that a raven blue T5 in the background ? - that is a nice van, you have 2 of my top motors. Well done
Reg
 
Hey Reggie,

Thanks! Yes, that's a Volkswagen T5 van, it's a fine car but it's not mine. It's of the people at whom's place I restore the car. I'm also a student and only 22, so I'm not really in the place to own a car like that haha.

But thanks!
 
Assembled some more parts this weekend, the reaction-rods (I'll call them that way, don't know if that's the right name), the rear shock absorbers, the rear anti-rol-bar, changed some bolts that were too long for the spherical bearings and got in the way of the steering knuckle.

Also noticed that I installed one of the torsionbar brackets the wrong way around so I'll have to do that one over since the cover won't fit on now.
 
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Hi there,

More progress has been made. Assembled some more bits to the chassis and sprayed the underneath with anti-stonechip stuff. I also sprayed it on the enginemounts, the suspension parts etc. so they will hopefully be preserved very well. Actually, tomorrow I will spray on two more cans of that stuff.

Today I started with cleaning up the engine. I just do it with paper cloth and petrol. I sandblasted the exhaust- and intakeunit, as well as the dynamo-mount.

I also cleaned up the gasket-surfaces so the seal will be nice and tight again.

I plan only to clean the engine from the outside since I have no time to do a total revision (and neither have the skills to do that in a acceptable period of time). I'll only substitute some of the ignition-parts.

Today I found out that the front end of my new chassis is slightly different from my old chassis. The head is thinner, so the bolts I bought new (which are just like those on my old chassis) are too long for the enginemount (the one which is attached to the gearbox).

I hope that the total length between the mounts is still the same, otherwise I'll need another type of enginemount. Does anyone have any clue about that?

My welder made some photos of the welding back then and he gave me those yesterday, so I uploaded some of those, as well as some pictures of the present situation.

Regards,

Rutger.



Pictures:

1 Before welding of the front chassis
2 Also before welding of the front chassis
3 After welding
4 After welding
5 After welding backbeams
6 After welding backbeams
7 After welding backbeams
8 Me trying to look cool with a spraygun.
 
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It's weird, since all R4s from 1968 to 1994 had the same crossmember...

How much is the difference? Is it possible that someone had converted the "new" chassis to enable a 5-speed gearbox to be fitted?
 
HEY RUTGER
Behind picture 4 - is that a pile of old chassis pieces. :smile:
Nice job mate.
And you do look cool - :cool:
Reg
 
@ Angel:

I already thought something like that too. But it doesn't look like there's been any welding on that piece so I doubt that. Maybe I'll put in the engine today so then I will be able to check whether it fits. I'll keep you updated and make some pictures of it so you can have a look at how it is different from other chassis.

@ Reggie:

Haha thanks for the compliments! And yes, that's a pile of chassispieces. I tried so many different chassis that I had to cut the ones I didn't use into pieces to be able to store them properly.
 
Hey guys,

Today I put on some more anti stonechip. I made sure I covered everything on the underneath and the suspension parts. I'd rather have an ugly layer of sticky mess underneath my chassis than a nice surface that wears off in 500 miles on the road so I put on that ugly sticky mess ;).

Anyway, I put back the enige. I only cleaned it up with petrol and thinner and a lot of cloth. I basically left it the way it was before. I only cleaned the carburator from the inside, I cleaned the waterpump on the inside, made a new gasket myself. Put a new gasket between the fuelpump and the engineblock, sandblasted some parts (pulleys and stuff like that)... just cleaning up.

I have another engine that I plan to overhaul after the restoration, so I can drive the car in the meantime with my original engine and maybe put in the other one when we overhauled that one.

Some questions: what do you guys think of the riding height? The car is much lower on the front than it is on the back. Is this position normal for a non-loaded (no weight put on, except for the engine) chassis?

The pictures speak for themselves:
 
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Looking good Rutger - Not sure your garage is big enough tho.
Reg

I sometimes have my doubts too. For instance: I don't know for sure if it will be big enough for a test-drive... ah well, it'll probobly be big enough.

Ghehe...

But thanks!
 
Starting to look again like a R4! Nice!

Don't bother about the ride height until you have fitted ALL parts on the car, even a spare tyre, or a rear seat, or the windscreens are considerable mass for the R4's supple suspension.
 
Been a long long time! Been quite busy the last months, it's been awfully cold and I had some things on my mind. Nevertheless, I haven't been sitting around doing nothing, though progress has been slow. The chassis has been put aside for now and the body's being taken care of (as in the sense: taken care of by me).

I don't have any experience with sheetmetalwork, never learned to weld ... so I'm quite learning a lot these days. I'm making sheetmetal patches for the bodypieces that have to be replaced and welding them in place myself. It doesn't all look very good but with a little grinding everything starts looking quite okay!

So, let the pictures do the telling:

Descriptions to the pictures:

1 Little part of the windowsill replaced
2 Rotten out corner of the doorsill
3 Cut it out.
4 Had a piece of an old body of which I use this doorsillcorner
5 Made it fit
6 Put it in place, now the welding...
7 Cut out various parts of this rotten out corner of the bootlidsill
8 Made some parts to put back in.
9 Put back in the lower sheetmetal.
10 Put the sidesheet back in, as you can see, my welding isn't that good yet ;) although the vertical part of this weld was pretty nice I think.
 
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And some more

1 With the sillpart in place, but still need to grind off a little bit of that and then weld it in place.
2 The other side of the car, same problems, same treatment.
3 Some of my first welding I did on the frontside of the car. There's holes burned in the sheetmetal that still have to be filled up.
4 Another spot that needs some replacement sheetmetal.
5 Next problem.
6 The car as I work on it now.
 
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Great.
I wish I will be able, as needed, to do such a work in the future to mine...

Andrea scripsit.
 
What a Job !:eek:

Personally I would be afraid to do something like this on my one.

Keep it going!
 
Hey guys, thanks for the nice comments! And Azazello, remember: I'm also only a beginner, only just "learned" to weld, so you should be able to manage I guess right?!

Tomorrow I'll continue work! Hope to weld in those two parts and finish some parts on the front.

I'll keep you updated.

Rutger.
 
I do not know, but thank you for trusting me... I am only able to weld two pieces of metal in some kind of brutal way, just to make some farming tool work again (or just strenghtening it)... very ugly works, indeed.
But my r4 does not still need great works, so I have time to learn some other technique...
And one of the best way, I found out, is reading this forum...

Andrea scripsit
 
I do not know, but thank you for trusting me... I am only able to weld two pieces of metal in some kind of brutal way, just to make some farming tool work again (or just strenghtening it)... very ugly works, indeed.
But my r4 does not still need great works, so I have time to learn some other technique...
And one of the best way, I found out, is reading this forum...

Andrea scripsit

Don't forget that Malcolm the owner of this site also runs this site too...

http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/index.php

A very very good resource for learning all about welding.
 
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